Moraly Bankrupt And Adulterer Pastor – Chris Okotie

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RELIGIOUS MONITOR

ASSESSMENT

Pastor T. B. Joshua Pastor Chris Oyakhilome Pastor Chris Okotie
Personality & Life style Simple & humble Moderate & humble Lousy, reckless & flamboyant
Doctrine Pentecostal Pentecostal Pentecostal
Teaching & Preaching Gospel, Salvation of soul, divine spiritual healing of the afflicted by the annointing power of the Holy Spirit. Gospel, Salvation of soul, divine spiritual healing of the afflicted by the annointing power of the Holy Spirit. Hatred, Criticism and Condemnation
Morality Upright Upright Moraly bankrupt & Adulterer
Background Poor family & Teacher Average family & Clergy home Funky Musician
Organisational Practice Charity Charity Materialism
Uprightness Disciplined Disciplined Arrogant & worldly
Family Blissful marriage & good family Blissful marriage & good family Broken home, desertion by wife because of Adulterous life
Divine & Spiritual annointing Deepest annointing by the Holy Spirit Deeper annointing by the Holy Spirit Questionable and unknown
Individual Future Plans More annointing More annointing to become politician & State Governor

Anti TB Joshua Bloggers Admit His Anointing Water Works – What a Shame!

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Whatever bearing one has taken on the credibility of TB Joshua, the renowned pastor of The Synagogue Church of All Nation’s in Lagos, Nigeria – one fact remains

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TB Joshua

indisputable, his is an incredible journey surrounded in mystery and being written in history. Joshua is easily the most vilified pastor in Africa, yet by far the most sought after. He is the hope of multitudes and yet the headache of religious bodies and group of bloggers who have vehemently disowned him but can’t seem to ignore him. It is a living drama being watched world over, as time’s steady course continues its revealing discourse on truth and authenticity. But what is it about TB Joshua that has actually engendered such absolute denunciation and renunciation by his fellow labourers in the vineyard?

With the recent event that took place at TB Joshua, Church, the Synagogue of all nations in Ghana, many online news sites and bloggers have become judges using some words against the ministry of Prophet TB Joshua . The same people who said TB Joshua Anointing Water is NONSENSE. Today one of such bloggers are asking “What about all the people the Anointing Water of TB Joshua Anointing Water worked for”?

This simply confirms that they know that the Anointing has worked for many. Surely if they really want to know if work they should take a look at the video Click Here

TB Joshua Church Lagos Group Screening Has Started – Europe ONLY Apply Now

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Every year, The Synagogue, Church Of All Nations hosts thousands of national and international visitors. People travel from around the world to witness and receive from the mighty work that God is doing in the life of Prophet T.B. Joshua and the five Wise Men. We have been given the grace to organise groups from the United Kingdom and the EU to visit the SCOAN to witness first-hand proof that Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today and forever!

If you would like to visit The Synagogue, Church Of All Nations, in a group from the United Kingdom or any part of the EU simply send email to tbjfansuk@gmail.com given us full details of why you want to visit the SCOAN including any merdical condition.

We would then send you  a questionnaire, fill it out in detail and submit it. Make sure your complete details are included. We would invite you to see you physically before sending your application to SCOAN HQ for processing.

 Applicants from the EU must be ready to come to the UK to be seen and interviewed.

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IF YOU ARE IN DOUBT, PLEASE EMAIL info@scoan.org

The Fugitive Nii Ayiku Amartey Has been Exposed Over TB Joshua

Mr Edmund Nii Ayiku Amartey, a regular contributor on one of the anti- SCOAN blogs – TB Joshua watch, who goes by alias Mr Terrific has shifted now to Ghana web where he publishes articles under the pseudonym “NII AYIKU” as a revenge for  his failure at the SCOAN. Failure? Yes, Mr Amartey Ayiku’s dubious character was exposed during 1996 and 1997, when TB Joshua had his first international crusade held at the Kaneshie Sports Complex in Accra. He had used his position at that occasion to extort money from unsuspecting worshippers who did not know that TB Joshua does not charge for the services he renders through the anointing God has bestowed upon him. Most of the people he had duped are still in the Ghana branch of The SCOAN and are ready to confront him should he try to deny those allegations thinking that the truth had been buried within the sands of time.

Ayiku Amartey was a Businessman who shuttled between Ghana and Lagos on a regular basis to  buy bleaching cream and hair products which

Edmund Nii Ayiku Amartey - The Fugitive

Edmund Nii Ayiku Amartey – The Fugitive

he sold in Accra Ghana. He tried as much as he could to become a disciple of TB Joshua but his sneaky attitude would not endear him to the heart of the prophet.

Recent publications on the internet by Nii Ayiku brought back memories of who this faceless writer is and why his words are so acidic towards TB Joshua and his ministry. Below is one of such strong worded statement.

“Enough is enough ! T B Joshua has more blood of Ghanaians on his hands and it is time to deal with this Nigerian criminal and his gang of rogues in Ghana, who claim to be pastors and prophets. It is time to disband the Synagogue church of Satan in Ghana”

It is unfortunate that insignificant people like Nii Ayiku Amartey  with a track record of failures in every aspect of life would try to apply every possible cheap method to make themselves look relevant. One should have expected that such a person who had once come close to the corridors of salvation and breakthrough should humble himself and persevere in knocking at the door of salvation until he finally arrives at a point where God will look at his determination and hearken to his plea for mercy and save him. But because Ayiku Amartey  falls into the category of those who come to Christ for the loaves and the fishes, he is impatient to wait for God’s time. These are the kinds of people that one would liken to the dog that death prevents from perceiving the aroma of the excreta till it is doomed.

Prophet T.B. Joshua is used to preaching that we need to use our goodness to change the bad we see in others.

  • What has Ayiku Amartey done to change the bad he sees of TB Joshua?
  • What effort has he or members of TB Joshua Watch done to deliver TB Joshua from the alleged involvement in the occult as they claim?
  • Would Jesus allow occultist to be calling his name for the past 20 years and consistenty performing works of miracle without exposing his hypocritical ambition? What was Jesus’ response when He was accused of being part Beelzebub? The same response is pertinent today to the likes of Ayiku Amartey.
  • TB Joshua critics, can’t you see clearly that the more you persecute TB Joshua the more his ministry is getting bigger and successful in terms of God’s anointing as is evident with people that come to The Synagogue, Church of All Nations from all over the world?
  • Was it not the recent antagonism aimed at undermining TB Joshua and the New Anointing Water and Stickers he had just introduced, that paid off by rather attracting tens of thousands of devotees to abandon their churches to attend The SCOAN in Ghana last week?
  • Many of the people who write comments on articles posted on the internet don’t even know TB Joshua yet they persecute him. To such ignorant persons, we can only pray that the Lord should forgive them for they know not what they are doing. It is our fervent prayer also that the Lord in his infinite mercy should open the eye of their hearts to have a glimpse of the Truth which, according to the Scriptures, will set them free from the bondage of satan.
  • If TB Joshua could NOT be killed, when he was just born and the evil one sent a rock to fly from afar off to fall right on the place he was lying at his naming ceremony, then no amount of denouncement or campaign of calumny can bring him down.

Ayiku Amartey should be the least qualified to advise that TB Joshua should go and attend to Nigerians. The ratio of Nigerians who come to The SCOAN to seek for solution to their problems is far greater than any single church in Nigeria has ever recorded. The records are there for anyone who cares to investigate and prove the facts.

Ayiku Amartey is the one that ought to be abvised to go and sort out his marital problem? One would have expected that you take time off to go back to your wife and the children you abandoned many years ago and have refused to provide for the innocent children God blessed you with. It is on government social welfare records that you have continued to refuse to give them the prescribed welfare fund as required by Law even if you decided to divorce the woman. The children are legitimately entitled to upkeep money from you. Doesn’t this negligence portray you as a wayward man that should not rear up your ugly neck in public.

Since you have come of age to the extent of challenging a man of God like TB Joshua, your first cause should have been to go and ask your mum who your real father is in order to put an end to the long-drawn battle between the three men that have been laying claim to having fathered you. Haven’t you had enough scandal in your life so far?

Do not quickly forget that you directly and indirectly have benefited from the magnanimity of TB Joshua when your migration to the USA had to be sponsored by Mr Apomsah whom TB Joshua had healed.

Suddenly, you have become a self made Pastor. As you watch this clip, Readers should also see the video below and judge who needs psychological evaluation – Ayiku Amartey or TB Joshua.

What do you do with the thousands of dollars you collect from people deceitfully? Your son needs money to pay his university tuition.

TB Joshua has a track record of reconciling broken families and surely your family needs to reconcile. I bet the owners of TB Joshua Watch site where you have been writing against TB Joshua don’t even know you have a broken home.

This is one of the lies you have shamelessly posted on a public social media that requires that every information put in a subscriber’s profile should be accurate but you have already violated the right to remain on that site by supplying the following misleading information:

Relationship Status

Single - He is Married, he lied

About Me

I’m the leader and founder of Gospel Faith Revival, a teacher, counsellor, encourager, anointed to preach the gospel and to bring deliverance to the captives. – If the anointing upon him can deliver, why doesn’t he deliver TB Joshua? Or worse still why does he not reconcile with his wife and children which happens to be one of the ministries of The SCOAN?

Ministries I am Involved With

Evangelism, crusades, soul winning, networking, workshops, seminars, conferences. – Tell the world, Amartey how many lives have you changed?It is not late for you to make a turn around and beg for forgiveness and receive the prophet’s blessing.

 

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TB Joshua Watch – The Anti Christ Bloggers

TB Joshua Watch is at it again, are we surprised? NO! This absurdity is always expected. Another religious bigotry, the proclamation of self-made judges and self righteousness indeed! It is common knowledge that people who are hell bent on maligning the name of others will stop at nothing to do just that. It is just ironical that these ‘faceless cohorts’ behind TB Joshua Watch sit by Emmanuel TV all day all night to watch every broadcast, thereby sniffing through each frame to see where they can zero in their next blogging. This tells me that they are so addicted to this channel but as critics and judges……….what a contradiction! One would have thought that if this Man of God TB Joshua is this ‘evil’ as they claim, and also that SCOAN is like a ‘cult’, it just seems hypocritical that they have not totally abandoned watching the channel????? Please readers, can you phantom what is going on here? Please do not stop….Keep watching Emmanuel TV!!!

Now to the issue at hand concerning the New Anointing Water, please let us make it unequivocally clear that the fact of the case is as follows…please read carefully.

Firstly, TB Joshua Watch has recorded the statement of the Prophet and edited it in order to misrepresent him. Thank Goodness, a clip of every broadcast is uploaded on YouTube, and please feel free to see the clip on YouTube and compare it with what these discredited bloggers have put on…what a manipulation!

The issue of the New Anointing Water….hmmn, please let who have ears listen carefully. The exact statements of Prophet TB Joshua were as follows:

The Prophet said, he has provided Water, but God gives the Anointing, which simply means that he is saying that as a servant of God, he can only act on instructions in righteousness to pray in faith over anything, and when these things are passed on to people, will become medium for God to use to manifest Himself in their lives. Please people of God, was it not same issue with Paul, whereby anything coming in contact with him were used as medium for healing, deliverance, blessing and salvation?

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  • The Prophet said that the Anointing Water has been packaged costing a lot of money, but as a free gift of God, given out freely to people in the service on the 12th of May. Has anyone said money was collected?
  • The Prophet’s word has also been manipulated. He advised everyone taking the Anointing Water to take ONLY 1, and that should anyone take more than 1, would automatically nullify the Grace in it, because it is dubious, as everyone is entitled to just one (1).
  • The prophet said that anyone taking more than one will only result him or her carrying away ‘dirty water’, meaning it may not work, because it has not be obtained in good faith and truthfully. This is quite simple, to say that whatever starts dubiously must end up dubiously…plan and simple.
  • The distribution of the Anointing Water as announced by the Prophet stated that the Water would be sent to every part of the world. This triggered several thousands of people going immediately to all SCOAN branches around the globe, even while the boxes had not left Lagos. You should understand that because of what millions of people all around the world have been witnessing through Emmanuel TV, people around the world (obviously except the subversive bigots at TB Joshua Watch, who are the ‘most righteous’) want to partake in what God is doing here daily. If millions in this generation must believe, they must see proof and signs that JESUS IS THE SAME YESTERDAY, TODAY AND FOREVER.
  • The unfortunate incident in Ghana has just brought home the reality of how desperately people are seeking God. Please let us state categorically that, there was no announcement to the general public or even the SCOAN members in Ghana that Anointing Water would be distributed. But to everyone’s amazement, suddenly everywhere was jammed packed even up to all adjoining major roads. As soon as the report of the large crowd got to the Prophet, he personally came on air to suspend the service and meeting that day (see clip on Emmanuel TV). The Church authorities quickly alerted the Police and Security authorities about the mammoth crowd and they quickly dispatched personnel to the scene (well over 500 Policemen and 200 Soldiers). The Church Auditorium was full, and many tents were provided outside, but unexpectedly, the crowd (600 yards away) surged and pushed towards the venue, when to gate was opened for those inside to go home after Prophet TB Joshua announced that the service would no longer hold that Sunday, obviously in cases like stampede may be unavoidable. READERS PLEASE NOTE I WAS THERE AND I SAW IT HAPPENED. The security and Police authorities performed excellently and professionally in controlling and assisting the crowd. Our prayers go to the fatally affected, the wounded as well as their families. We just find it imperative to make the clarifications above in order to put records straight to stop the ‘deluded bigots’ from truncating their slanderous remarks.
  • For further insight and clarification, please watch all the clips on this post.
  • Again we are asking TB Joshua Watch………what is next? Attack on the Wise men? Jealousy, Bigotry, Pride, Ignorance and Self-righteousness are the trademarks of detractors, but one with God is Majority.
  • Keep watching Emmanuel TV………Changing Lives, Changing Nations, Changing the World.

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THE SECRETS OF TB JOSHUA’S DISCIPLESHIP TRAINING (Part 1)

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There seems to be much controversy surrounding the life TB Joshua’s disciples are coached to live at the SCOAN. The reasons for the irresponsible inquiry into the personal lives of TB Joshua’s disciples by SCOAN critics are unclear.

Though one would really expect nothing less from fanatical faultfinders of SCOAN, even if it means to intrude on the private life of ex-disciples for any filth they can uncover to hurriedly attribute to their former master as his fruit. As a consequence, it’s not very difficult to come across defamatory articles online featuring stories of supposed ex-disciples alleging diverse ill-treatments and emotional breakdown taking place in the SCOAN premises.

However, there are also growing concerns from TB Joshua supporters that the bulk of these slanderous insider stories online are deceitfully fabricated. In any case, considering the hateful and biased criticism of SCOAN detractors we’ve observed, coupled with  renamed and faceless accusers that leave nothing to track, we would say their concern is very likely. But as much as SCOAN supporters would love to answer favorably to the allegations with that assumption, only firsthand insider experiences would hold their sway against these distasteful rumors. It is on this note that we publish Sandra’s story; a disciple who recently contacted us to publish her story. She tells her story from a unique perspective which we presume you would find in-depth and enlightening.

 Sandra Hall tells Her Story

A couple of people, claiming to have been “disciples of T.B. Joshua” have “come out” regarding their life experiences at The SCOAN. They aim to tell fascinating stories, revealing “what really goes on”. But they haven’t told my story yet.

I was one of them. I stayed at The SCOAN for several years before I was pointed to my calling in life through Prophet T.B. Joshua, the man God used to reshape my life, my character and my destiny. I have a lot to say concerning life as a disciple.

The moment I entered The SCOAN so many years ago, I realized that I was not in an ordinary place. As I witnessed the miracles, I realized that I was not witnessing ordinary events. I noticed many people following the prophet in the services and during the week I was there and learned they were called “disciples”. This too, was not ordinary. The only disciples I was aware of where those that followed Jesus in the Bible. What had I just discovered?

I recalled that in the earthly ministry of Jesus Christ, here were 12, then 72 and many times “great multitudes followed Him”. The same was happening at The SCOAN. As can be expected, in most large public gatherings you have attended, you will find those who believe in the cause with their spirit, soul and body and those who don’t believe at all, those who have come to contribute to the meeting and those who have come to steal from the crowd. Remember Judas sneaking out with the money bags in the small assembly of 12. Such was the case with the disciples of Jesus. Such is the case of those who join the ministry of Prophet T.B. Joshua. Not everyone who joins is perfect and not everyone joins for the salvation of their souls.

At the end of my week’s visit, I had a meeting with the prophet and was ecstatic when he told me that I could stay and become part of his ministry. It felt as if my life had changed completely – but it was just the beginning of the change.

Life at The SCOAN is unlike anything I could have imagined. Every day, I was witnessing miracles first hand. I received lectures from the prophet himself, worked with the ministry’s projects, travelled with them to international crusades and developed a relationship with the prophet, his family and those who were also working with him, people from different countries, with different backgrounds. I met a young man whose family were practicing witch doctors but who wanted to accept Jesus as his Saviour (You can see him on Emmanuel TV). I met people who came for healing, like the girl from a poor family in the US who was healed from a debilitating case of scoliosis, surrendered her life to Christ in response to His love and is still there (You can also see her on Emmanuel TV). I met people who came as if they were on a school field trip, like a secretive technical genius from an affluent family in the UK who came with his youth group and stayed for a time with several of them. I met ladies from South Africa who came separately but lived as if they were twins (You can see them on the Internet). It was amazing. As a disciple, I saw that many at The SCOAN really wanted to be changed and used by God and many simply wanted to get the glory quick, without any change on their part. That was their great mistake.

It is true; there is a lot of hard work going on at The SCOAN. Ask any of the thousands who visit on a weekly basis and they will tell you. There are currently three services a week going on and can last up to 15 hours or more each! I have never seen it done anywhere. Thousands throng to the church to be attended to, interviewed, accommodated, prayed for, listened to, helped. It is the disciples that attend to them. You can imagine the challenges they face.

But let us be sincere. Everyone knows the saying, No pain, no gain. You have to be ready to go through a season of pain to receive a season of gain. Ask every Olympian athlete and they will tell you of the rigorous training and injuries sustained on their way to greatness. Ask every soldier and he will tell you the relentless work and physical and emotional training he underwent to overcome the challenges of wars he would later encounter. Ask every successful businessman and he will tell you the small successes and failures he encountered before his breakthrough. What we are working for is the greatest success of all – the salvation of souls.

Yes, I worked long hours until I was tired many nights. I sometimes postponed my meals so that I could finish an assignment. I fought with fellow disciples over nonsense and over serious problems alike. I cried when I didn’t get what I wanted. I shouted at people who made me angry. I refused to do some assignments. I turned in poor work to my coordinators. I also delivered wonderful messages, kept my room very clean, always showed up for assignments on time and was cheerful with everyone that was “nice” to me. That was in the beginning. That was before I really understood that to be a true disciple of Jesus Christ is not just to change my location (i.e. from living in my country to living in Nigeria) but to change my character (i.e. from lying, stealing, thinking lustfully, behaving rudely to imbibing the character of Jesus Christ). As the prophet used to say, “Anyone can get a Mercedes Benz – you can buy it with money from your salary, you can steal it, you can receive it as a gift – you can have a Mercedes Benz but not everyone can maintain a Mercedes Benz”. To maintain the gift of God, we must have the character of God. This is the ultimate lesson in The SCOAN. This is the primary focus of the discipleship programme. This is the most difficult challenge to overcome.

It was a daily challenge for me. I fought every day, not only with others but mainly with myself. I realized when I went wrong but to prevent myself from misbehaving was my biggest problem. Disciple meetings were my saving grace. Yes, I said it. Disciple meetings saved my life. I received some terrible reports – in response to my sometimes terrible attitude. But listening to the negative impact my bad behavior had on others and most especially the work of God, tore at my conscience. I came to see how destructive negative behavior and thoughts can truly be. Unfortunately, most people cannot change in theory but only in practice. Fortunately, the prophet held regular disciple meetings so that we could discuss those bad habits and make correction. Correction truly makes future possible. I am who, what and where I am today because of the correction I received in those much talked about meetings.

But those who failed to take to that correction went down a long and windy path – a path to destruction. I remember one girl in particular. She was constantly being reported for embarrassing the men in the church. She refused to admit she had a problem. Instead, she would try to lay the blame on the men, claiming they were trying to seduce her, or had stolen something she wanted to retrieve, or were simply “wicked people”. Several times I advised her privately to explain her problem to the prophet and go for deliverance. She flatly refused to believe she had a problem with lust.

There is a saying that goes, “Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned”. This was the case of this girl. As time went on, we realized that her seductive acts had a target – the man of God. When she couldn’t achieve her goal, she became literally wild. Hers is the voice one hears throughout many negative sentiments on the internet. It is the voice of a seductive spirit. Now, if you have watched Emmanuel TV, you would have heard the confessions of thousands of people possessed by evil spirits. Many have confessed that they were sent to destroy men of God, pastors and bishops, those who could cause harm to their kingdom of darkness. Many have described the way they dressed, the way they moved or sat, the attempts they made to get attention from the men of God they were seducing. The similarities are crystal clear. It is those who truly desire to be free from the chains of satan, those who truly desire to have a relationship with Jesus Christ that will be open for their deliverance. Countless women have been set free from this life of seduction and destruction while countless others remain in their bondage and continue to capture others thereby. We, Christians, must be careful lest we are drawn into these seducing lies.

These are just a few short stories of the lives of disciples of T.B. Joshua. I promise to reveal more in the next edition and to let you know exactly what I am doing now, by the grace of God. Until then, I encourage you to continue to examine all things in the light of God’s Word and watch a few of these eye-opening stories:

When looking at the lives of those around the prophet, you will see that some are there to add, some to subtract, some to multiply and some to divide. Those who have become Wise are those who have overcome their human spirit and been set free from every evil spirit that had been operating in their lives. They are shining examples to all on how God can transform our lives.

But not everyone rejoices in the success of others. Many want to get success cheaply – without the necessary sacrifice on their part. Nothing genuine in life comes cheaply. This is a principle of life.

Jesus knew the disciples were not perfect but He called them around Him for a mutual relationship – one in which each

 Peter chopping of the guard’s ear

Peter chopping of the guard’s ear

party would benefit. When Peter became a disciple, the kingdom of God benefited by having a superb ambassador and Peter benefited by receiving a new lifestyle, new job and new focus. But it wasn’t a bed of roses. Peter passed through serious trials and tests of faith. His character was questioned and he was rebuked and praised before he developed a Godly character. This is the aim of The SCOAN and Prophet T.B. Joshua. I saw that clearly in the years that I was there.

When I joined the ministry of Prophet T.B. Joshua, I became a disciple. I was excited to be part of such a fellowship, It is true that Large crowds followed Jesus, people lived with Him, they went to the mountain to pray, they went to the seaside to rest, they cooked, went fishing, travelled, received lectures from Jesus personally, attended to huge crowds (remember the feeding of the 5,000), reported each other, received rebuke and praise from their leader (remember Peter, one moment he was called satan for his actions and motive and in one moment, his character was referred to as the rock upon which Christ would build His church), fell asleep at the wrong times (remember the disciples in the Garden of Gethsemane), were rude to visitors (remember Peter chopping of the guard’s ear).

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“I Did Not Foresee Atta Mills’ Death – T.B. Joshua is A FAKE INTERVIEW, BEWARE!

Emmanuel. We were shocked to discover an article currently circulating around the internet in which a media house claimed to interview Prophet T.B. Joshua concerning the death of our late President of Ghana.

In response to this false interview, this is an official communication from The SCOAN & Prophet T.B. Joshua:

“The interview in LEADERSHIP NEWSPAPER of Thursday 26/7/2012 titled “I Did Not Foresee Atta Mills’ Death – T.B. Joshua” does not represent me, T.B. Joshua, because I was not around and I never spoke with anyone.

“People say all sorts of things against me but God says “Touch not my anointed and do him no harm”. Why should anybody write this -as if you will not die one day?

“Remove this interview! The interview was not from me. Your staff never spoke with me. I was not around. Once again, Leadership Newspaper Editorial Staff should please remove this interview for God’s sake!

“Don’t fight a prophet; don’t fight God!

“Once again, readers, this is the first time I am talking to the public after the demise of our late president.

“I will talk as God instructs me on Sunday Live service on Emmanuel TV.

“Don’t let anyone or organization in any medium deceive you.

“I have not granted any interview and I will not because God has not permitted me until Sunday Service.

“I will not grant any interview until Sunday Live Broadcast.

“Those that may have copied the false story from LEADERSHIP NEWSPAPER should remove it from their sites because this does not represent me. It is not from me.”