‘Perhaps we have not been clear enough in the points we’ve made’, says T.B Joshua watch. They go on further to say, ‘To be absolutely clear, we believe that:
- Personal faith is an essential element of the Christian’s life, and played a key part in many (though not all) of the healing miracles in the bible.
- Righteous living is important and some sickness is the direct result of an unhealthy and/or sinful lifestyle.
However, these are not the issues we are getting at. These two scenarios illustrate our concern:
- Arthur (not a real person) is HIV+, but after prayer he is healed. He goes to the doctor who confirms his healing and gives him the go ahead to come off his ARV medication. Several years later he is living a promiscuous lifestyle and he again contracts HIV. He has not lost his healing, he has “re-contracted” HIV through not maintaining a responsible and healthy lifestyle.’
I f T.B. Joshua watch has confirmed that personal faith is essential to one’s healing then why the fuss? The contradictions and insincerity in their writing is glaring for any Christian to see. If they have been honest enough by admitting ‘they have not been clear enough in the points we’ve made’ then it is a tacit admission of not knowing what they are talking about concerning the things of righteous living and the ‘maintaining of your healing’. They need to go back to the bible and learn. I admonish them to read Proverbs 6:6 ‘go to the ant, you sluggard, consider her ways, and be wise. A wise person does not pour scorn on the things of God, does not slander, do not hold grudges.
I refer you to read below an interesting article I sent some time ago that prompted the TB Joshua Watch response and I am now reproducing it again.
Correct understanding of key scriptures
Let’s look now at Psalm 103. Here we find the “benefits” of serving God. Look at verse 3 closely. Some say that in this verse God promises to heal every illness as surely as he promises to forgive every sin. But God does not promise to forgive our sins unconditionally. We do not experience the results of his forgiveness if we do not repent.
Neither does God promise unconditionally to heal us every time. Just as in the case of forgiveness of sin, there are conditions. In the case of healing, the conditions are often faith and obedience, but always the condition of what is best for the person’s eternal life — God’s will for the person!
Healing has a condition that forgiveness of sin does not — namely, the condition of what God deems best in our life. But this is only because it is always in our best interest to be forgiven immediately, but not always in our best long-term interest to have the suffering of illness instantly removed (1 Pet. 5:10).
Now let’s examine James 5:14-16. “Is anyone among you sick? Let him call for the elders of the church, and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord. And the prayer of faith will save the sick, and the Lord will raise him up. And if he has committed sins, he will be forgiven. Confess your trespasses to one another, and pray for one another, that you may be healed. The effective, fervent prayer of a righteous man avails much.”
Does this passage promise that God will heal everyone every time? Although the statement, “and the Lord will raise him up” appears on the surface to be written without qualification, it sits amidst the rest of the Bible and is qualified by it. Every verse of the Bible must be read in the context of the whole Bible — not in isolation.
Here, as in every other case of a request for answered prayer, is the implied condition of healing being in the best interest of the party. It is an implied condition, but it is stated by the Bible to apply to all prayer! “If we ask anything according to His will, He hears us” (1 John 5:14).
Some commentators have noted that the word translated save in James 5:15 is a Greek word that is used only a few times in the Bible in reference to a person being made well from sickness (e.g., Mark 6:56). The vast majority of times this word is used in the New Testament, it is used in the sense of spiritual salvation. Likewise, the word translated raise in this same verse can mean “to rouse from sleep or lift up as from a bed or floor,” but most often is used in the New Testament to represent the resurrection from the dead (see Matthew 10:8; 11:5; 14:2; 16:21, etc.).
Thus James in this verse uses terminology that can refer not only to physical healing, but also to the spiritual resurrection from the dead (also based on conditions not stated here but found elsewhere in the Bible).
We must address here a related point. One view of James 5:14-15 is that James meant that God heals every time — but he heals some now and some at the resurrection of the dead.
It is true that God heals some now and that in the resurrection the saints will have perfect, immortal bodies. But this is not the right way to explain why God does not heal every time in this life. Eventual healing of the body by the resurrection is not what sick people are asking for in their prayers to be healed. They already know they will not be sick in their resurrected state.
God has promised to heal us, but has set conditions on such healing — the conditions of faith and allegiance to God, and always the condition of God’s will.
These conditions may seem easy to understand. But when a person becomes ill, these simple concepts can become confused. Usually the confusion is over the matter of faith, although it may be stated in the form of questions such as, “If God loves me, how can he see me suffer and not intervene?” Or, “How can I have faith that God will heal me if I don’t know whether it is his will to do so now?”
To answer these important questions, we must look at the oft-misunderstood but vital connection between faith and healing.
I want T.B. Joshua watch to understand this, we are not in competition with any other ministry or corporate body and so we do not care if millions exchanged emails on the sky and BBC report. Numbers are not the issue if you have God in your corner.
We maintain the healings are tangible and they cannot deny them merely because the have fallen out with SCOAN. Their families and siblings recognise this and have decided to work and stand solidly by SCOAN. If their families are now conducting healing services and people are being healed it shows that God is involved. In one of their write ups they complained bitterly about their ‘loved ones still holed up in Lagos’ and not wanting to leave. Who wants to leave the presence of God? TB Joshua watch has lost the argument. Shifting on every ground, from claiming they have no evidence on the sexual abuse claim to not have been clear enough on their points. This should tell you a lot about the people we are dealing with.
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The lady healed in this video was the photograph TB Joshua used in their last post. Was she not healed?