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Mr. Eddie Amartey, AKA MR TERRIFIC, SCOAN IMPOSTER EXPOSED! Part 3
Editors Note: After we published part one of our stories Mr. Eddie Amartey, AKA MR TERRIFIC, SCOAN IMPOSTER EXPOSED! Part 1 & 2 Since we started off we have received quite a number of responses from SCOAN supporters making an attempt to uncover the identities of the authors of TB Joshua watch, ( our apologies to the SCOAN supporters whose articles we didn’t publish, a lot of them were off the top inferring stuff rather than stating obvious facts with right reasoning) of the lot we received, only this article by Raphael who also got in touch with us recently comes across as more insightful as he explicitly gives an account of the thought process that led to his investigation and the proof backing his opinion on the authors of TB Joshua watch. We deemed it necessary to publish his article as it could vividly shed some light on the secret identities behind TB Joshua watch, as well as satisfy the curiosity of SCOAN supporters. Please note that the opinions stated here are those of the writer.***some names have also been removed for privacy concerns***
BELOW IS AN EMAIL SENT TO US
From: ONLINE BANKING <xxxxxx.amarteyxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.com>
Reply-to: <xxxxxx.amarteyxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.com>
Subject: YOUR URGENT RESPONSE NEEDED.FROM MR. E AMARTEY
Greetings from Ghana!
Before I introduce myself, I wish to inform you that this letter is not a hoax mail and I urge you to treat it serious. This letter must come to you as a big surprise, but I believe it is only a day that people meet and become great friends and business partners.
My name is Mr. E Amartey, the present branch Manager of a bank here in Ghana. I write you this proposal in good faith, believing that I can trust you with the information I am about to reveal to you. Like I said, I have a transaction that will benefit both of us, as your assistance is required as a foreigner. I use to head the Accounts department in my bank head office, but last December I was asked to take position of a Manager of our branch in Kumasi who passed on, so that was how I became the present Manager and discovered a fortune. As I resumed duty, I discovered an account with total sum of $12,500,000 million that has not been operated on for the past 4 years. From my investigation, I found out that this account belongs to one Late Mr. ANDREAS SCHRANNER a German great industrialist and a resident of Munich, who unfortunately lost his life along with his entire famillies in the plane crash of CONCORDE AIRLINE which crashed on 25th JULY, 2000.
The account is escrow call account, a secret type of account in my bank and no other person knows about this account or any thing concerning it, the account has no other beneficiary. I have kept a close monitoring of the account since then and nobody has come forward to ask about the money as next of kin to the late Mr. Andreas Schranner, meaning that no one is aware of the account.
I cannot directly take out this money without the help of a foreigner and that is why I am contacting you for an assistance to claim the funds and share it with me. As the Manager of my bank branch, I have the power to influence the release of the funds to any foreigner that comes up as the next of kin to the account, with the correct information concerning the account, which I shall give you.
I am seeking your co-operation to present you as the next of kin to the account, so that my bank head quarters will release the funds to you. There is practically no risk involved, the transaction will be executed under a legitimate arrangement that will protect you from any breach of law. If you accept to work with me, I want you to state how you wish us to share the funds in percentage, so that both parties will be satisfied. Contact me as soon as you receive this message if you feel we can work together, so we can go over the details.
Thanking you in advance and May God blesses you. Please, treat with utmost confidentiality. You can call me on +233xxxxxxxxx. I wait your urgent response.
<xxxxxx.amarteyxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.com>Regards,
Mr. E Amartey.
We have been given a name of a former ex-disciple we are trying to trace, we understand has Eddie Amartey’s photo. Once we are able to get it we will publish it with some information that will shock you.
Mr. Eddie Amartey, AKA MR TERRIFIC, SCOAN IMPOSTER EXPOSED! Part 2
PLEASE READ Mr. Eddie Amartey, AKA MR TERRIFIC, SCOAN IMPOSTER EXPOSED! Part 1 BEFORE PART 2
WTBJ: Please can you tell us how did the Ghana crusade started? – Please we edge you to be calm. We see that you don’t want to hear the name Amartey.
Ans: When the group was first formed in the Church, it was called Global Group, now Ecowas Group, because It’s member were mostly from West Africa especially Ghana and that’s when l was nominated as the group coordinator. There were 5 Ghanaians under TB Joshua at the time as disciples under training. They were the one that encouraged us to organise the Ghana Crusade “GHANA FOR CHRIST” 1997, we as group started contributing money towards the Crusade, we even held night vigil every Friday. When we thought we’ve got enough money to cover the crusade we informed TB Joshua of what we intended to do. He was so happy he asked us to nominate someone from the group to go to Ghana in search of good venue in Accra for the crusade. One Mr. Eric was chosen, so he left for Ghana. 9 days later Mr. Eric came back with names of 4 venues – BLACK STAR SQURE, TRADE FAIR CENTER, and ELWAK STADIUM & KANESHI SPORT COMPLEX.
The one we could afford with the money we had was the Trade Fair Center. We had to agree on a date and pay for the venue; we chose a day in March and stated making posters, that’s when PFN sent to GPC not to accept TB Joshua in Ghana calling all sorts of names.
Faith Cometh published Nana Antoh account on this issue click Here. To save you time we extracted of what he said below.
FC: When did you first come to know about the SCOAN?
Rev. Antoh: In 1997, I was the administrator of the Ghana Pentecostal Council. At that time, the man of God wanted to come to Ghana for a crusade and the Ghana Pentecostal Council were asked to host him. As of then, nobody knew him in Ghana. I had been a pastor for several years but I never heard the name T.B. Joshua. When he said he wanted to come to Ghana some Nigerian churches sent their pastors to Ghana to ask our council not to accept him because they said he was an occultist. So, at the beginning, we were very lackadaisical in accepting him.
Also a few Nigerian ministers had come to swindle the council before; so we had a very negative impression about Nigerian ministers. Now his own countrymen were coming to tell us: “Don’t accept that man; he is an occultist”. The man of God sent another group to us, saying that he was ready to pay for four pastors from the council to come to the SCOAN, stay for any number of days to see for themselves. So, some senior pastors were chosen and stayed there for five days. When they came back to Ghana, they said: “Listen, this is from God; let us accept the man!” Some of us were arguing: “How can you use only four days to examine the man?” The council came together and had a vote and those who voted for the man of God to come to Ghana won. So, the man of God came to Ghana.
We had to shift the date forward. On Sunday March 16th 1997 Jane Amartey brought a man she introduced as her husband Mr. Edmund Nii Ayiku Amartey, we all welcomed him. After the Church service that that day Mr Eric came forward to give the feedback on the arrangement, in his words “Emmanuel, l thank God for everything, the date the group asked me to book is not available, and l thinks we need to make provision for TV advert so why don’t me move the date ahead. I also discover that to get a big crowed we need to involve the Ghana Pentecostal Council. They will be the one to distribute the posters and the banners among the Churches in Ghana. But there is a small problem, l have been to the GPC and it seems to be a problem from Pastor here Nigeria” so we had t inform TBJ who sent Mr. Ben Esien one of his Ghanaian disciple to travel to Ghana. It was at this stage we got to know how much Mr. Amartey wanted to be involved.
Watch this space for the real Amartey.
Mr. Eddie Amartey, AKA MR TERRIFIC, SCOAN IMPOSTER EXPOSED! Part 1
In a previous post we made clear to our readers that Satan and his children are NOT happy with the way God is operating at the SCOAN, using Prophet TB Joshua and 5 Wise men hence, they continue to fabricate lies upon lies in attempt to damage the ministry of TB Joshua. Satan is not looking for the people who are already in his kingdom; rather he’s busy hauling those who’re in God’s kingdom into his kingdom. As it was so it is, just as Judas was used to betray Jesus, certain individuals now use online news sites to spread spiteful lies against the work of God at the SCOAN.
One of those who in recent times has spread malicious lies against the ministry of SCOAN is Mr. Eddie Amartey, who is popularly known on a TB Joshua critic Blog as “MR Terrific” he’s unarguably behind some of the most blasphemous remarks about TB Joshua on a reputed critic blog. He made so many bogus claims on that site, ascribing so many events in the ministry including TB Joshua’s Ghana Crusade to his acclaimed immense contributions and now claims to be in a good position to warn others to be wary of SCOAN. But what is the truth of Eddie Amartey’s involvement with SCOAN? Our correspondents visited the SCOAN during the past week to conduct some investigations inclusive of Eddie Amartey’s role in SCOAN and their findings were astonishing on this unmasked imposter, read on the ensuing interview with one of the group co-ordinators and our correspondents.
WTJ: Good day Sir, I’m Mrs. Stella woods and this is Mr. Selwyn Clark. We have been directed to you in respect of Mr. Amartey.
Ans: My name is Mr. Charles How may I help you?
WTJ: We have come from the US in respect of the lot of rumours surrounding the ministry of the SCOAN, and were directed to you for details of Mr. Amartey a one time member whom we understand was a member of Ecowas group you once co-ordinated
Ans: Is it Jane Amartey of which Amartey are you referring to? Because we only know one Amartey and she is female.
WTJ: Wow, We saw in one article in which he claims he was a member and was the one who organised the Ghana crusade in 1997
Ans: Oh That Twat!
WTJ: Excuse me, what did you say?
Ans: I said he is a twat, the most irresponsible person I’ve ever seen, in Fact please go, He will make me insult him.
WTJ: So you know him?
Ans: Yes we know him.
WTJ: So he was a member and the one who made it possible for the Ghana crusade to be held in 1997
Ans: Mrs. Woods and Mr. Man, what do you want from me?
WTJ; THE TRUTH!
Ans: First the only Amartey we know in the SCOAN HQ is Jane Amartey, she Joined the Church late 1996 and she is the only Amartey I co-ordinated, I remember when she just joined the church, she had a problem which brought her, her womb was always coming out anytime she goes to the loo. I know her as a hair dresser who has a shop somewhere in Yaba (a place in Lagos Nigeria) and God healed her at the SCOAN. I even have her picture here, see (opens a book with her picture pasted against her name) She was the one who brought Mr. Stephen Apomnsem who was mad and walking the streets of Lagos when Jane Amartey met him and brought him to the church where he was healed. So on the issue of Amartey; he’s not the one who organised the Ghana crusade.
WTJ: Can you please tell us then how the Ghana crusade came to be?
Ans: When I first joined it we had four Ghanaian disciples under TB Joshua, these were the people who helped with the crusade in Ghana.
WTJ: So you mean it’s not Amartey who started the Ghana crusade…
Watch this space for Part two of Eddie Amartey’s Deception.
TB Joshua Critics Sitting On Time Bomb
It’s been a while we wrote on TB Joshua and his critics. We had to take a trip to Ghana, Lagos, South Africa, Bristol in the UK to investigate the group of rascals whom have now teamed up to form a bloc to damage the reputation of TB Joshua, after they failed to achieve their goal at the SCOAN HQ as well as numerous blogs and junk news sites.
Some of our findings are earth shaking, what they thought they could achieve within a year, how much they wanted money, how they extorted money from the congregation and most importantly why they are doing this.
All these will be featured in parts to ensure you follow the truth every inch of the article we shall be bringing your way soon. Watch Out!
Former Administrator of The Ghana Pentecostal Council John Nana Antoh Speaks on TB Joshua
Culled from 2nd edition of Faith Cometh, Former administrator of the Ghana Pentecostal council, John Nana Antoh testifies of the mighty works the lord is using TB Joshua to do in our present dispensation.
Senior Pastor, Bible School founder and a former administrator of the Ghana Pentecostal Council, Rev. John Nana Antoh, shares with Faith Cometh how his spiritual life took a dramatic turn as a direct result of his encounter with someone who didn’t just preach the Bible, but made it work.
FC: Can you introduce yourself to us?
Rev. Antoh: My name is Reverend John Nana Antoh, am a professor of theology and director of a school called the Religious Academy in Ghana. I am also the senior pastor of a church called Berea Christian Center.
FC: When did you first come to know about the SCOAN?
Rev. Antoh: In 1997, I was the administrator of the Ghana Pentecostal Council. At that time, the man of God wanted to come to Ghana for a crusade and the Ghana Pentecostal Council were asked to host him. As of then, nobody knew him in Ghana. I had been a pastor for several years but I never heard the name T.B. Joshua. When he said he wanted to come to Ghana some Nigerian churches sent their pastors to Ghana to ask our council not to accept him because they said he was an occultist. So, at the beginning, we were very lackadaisical in accepting him.
Also a few Nigerian ministers had come to swindle the council before; so we had a very negative impression about Nigerian ministers. Now his own countrymen were coming to tell us: “Don’t accept that man; he is an occultist”. The man of God sent another group to us, saying that he was ready to pay for four pastors from the council to come to the SCOAN, stay for any number of days to see for themselves. So, some senior pastors were chosen and stayed there for five days. When they came back to Ghana, they said: “Listen, this is from God; let us accept the man!” Some of us were arguing: “How can you use only four days to examine the man?” The council came together and had a vote and those who voted for the man of God to come to Ghana won. So, the man of God came to Ghana.
At that time, I served as an interpreter. I didn’t normally serve as an interpreter, but I was so curious, I wanted to get near to the man, as close as possible, so I could examine him. So I offered to be the interpreter. On the first night of the crusade, it was so wonderful! Of the number of Nigerian ministers I have known, they were very boisterous, rough and tough, but here was a man who was so gentle like a lamb. He came so gently, preached a very simple message and then said it was time for healing. He got down from the platform. I was even telling him, “if you go down from the platform the people are going to trample on you! Why don’t you stay on the platform to minister?’’ But he said, “No let’s go down,” I had never seen healing like that! Other ministers stand on top of the platform and pray, and if you get your healing by faith, you get it. But this one, he would go to the blind person direct.
Thousands came for healing and they wrote on the placards the kind of sicknesses they had. The first one he went to was an ex-service man, Brigadier Alijah Freeman – I remember very vividly; he had been blind for 12 years. I was watching very closely because I had ulterior motives; I wanted to be sure that he was not going to use any magic. He just took the placard and rubbed it on the guy’s face. The old man started shouting, “I can see like a baby! I can see like a baby!” The second person he went to was a cripple, just his leg. He said to him: “Come on – stand up!” and then the cripple jumped! I was so shocked; is it magic or is it a dream? He went to a third person. This was a woman who was brought from London. She was having a problem with her kidney and was paralysed. They had declared her hopeless, so they had sent her to come and die in Ghana. They didn’t even bring her out of the car; they had to drive her into the field. So I was following the man of God, and he just opened the door of the car; prayed for the woman and said, “Come out!”And the woman jumped out! I was so shocked!
What really surprised me was the healing of the very well known man in Ghana called ‘Big Boss’. He has a very famous restaurant called ‘Big Boss’. The man is a giant, about 6ft tall and very broad. At that time, ‘Big Boss’ had a serious problem with his kidney; he couldn’t even urinate. Hearing that the man of God was coming, his relatives brought him from the hospital, where he was awaiting an operation. On the field Prophet T.B. Joshua went to where he was, took his placard and prayed a short prayer: I then saw something I had never seen before – there were so many people in the stadium, but this man didn’t even feel shy. He removed the whole of his manhood and started urinating. He urinated for about 30 minutes! When he finished, he breathed and sad “Now, l am healed” So, l said “Big Boss how do you know you are healed? It’s not like cripple you can see walking: your sickness is internal. How do you know you are healed?” He said: “my brother, l tell you am healed! The way l was feeling before coming here. I don’t feel it. I couldn’t urinate for several weeks, but now l can urinate”. I told him: Go to the hospital to do a check up and see if you are really healed” He went and to the hospital and the doctor was shocked! He was totally healed. The following day ‘Big Boss’ came to the crusade field to give his testimony!
What actually surprised and made me to love TB Joshua was that Christ was the centre of everything he did. He would do all these wonderful miracles but after that he will say “l am not the healer. I only know the healer His name is Jesus Christ!” I said to myself, “My God if this man is not of God, who can he be? He is doing miracles and not taking the glory but giving it to Jesus’. The following day, after seeing the miracles, l went home and wept because l felt l had been too proud – so proud to criticize a man of God l have never seen before. That night, l wept bitterly. The following day l went to him – he knew what l was doing but he had a lot of patience with me. I greeted him and then had a short conversation with him. After that he shook my hands and told me “From today, we are friends!” Since then l have been calling him a friend that is closer than a brother. That has been our relationship since 1997.
FC: Do you have a personal testimony to share to strengthen our reader’s faith?
Rev: Antoh: During those days, l was very strong man, doing a lot of work as administrator of the Ghana Pentecostal Council. But one fateful morning in 2004, at around 2am, I wanted to go and urinate. As l was walking there, l suddenly collapsed; l didn’t know what happened. When l came around, l discovered that l had been attacked with stroke. It was a very terrible thing – my entire right side was paralysed. The moment l woke up, before even going to the hospital; l was rushed to the SCOAN because everybody knows l know TB Joshua. It was really a matter of death when l was brought here. The man of God ‘went to heaven for me’. I stayed here for 10 days. The man of God prayed for me and took care me and within 10 days l could begin to walk. He said: “Now if you don’t go home, your wife may think something bad has happened to you. So for the sake of your wife, go home nothing will happen to me”. I was afraid but he encouraged me. When l went home, l said: “I wanted to know exactly what happened to me” So l went to the hospital for a check-up and they did a CT scan. When the specialist looked at me, he was amazed. He said: “How can you be alive?” The whole of your brain is full of blood. The man thought l could not hear him, so he was speaking with the Pastor who brought me: How can he be alive? It is only a miracle that can keep this Pastor alive”. They took me home and l said: “Don’t take me to any hospital again” and l decided not to take any medicine. The doctor later assure me: “The way l, have seen Christ uploading you, l believe you will not die but medically impossible”. Later on another medical officer, upon seeing what l had been through, told me that it was the same thing Ariel Sharon, former Prime Minister of Israel through. And for years now still lying coma. It was at that time l realized what the man of God had done for me. I am forever grateful.
FC: so, the impact Prophet TB Joshua in your life is truly changing!
Rev. Antoh: Everything about TB Joshua is a model for me though l studied theology for several years, took several postgraduate degrees in theology, came as a professor of theology, set up a Bible school , until l came to TB Joshua all have been teaching was theory. I came to the Synagogue and saw the Bible demonstrated. The things you read in the Bible – you see them here! That’s why am so surprised that there are people who can have the audacity to talk against the man of God. They can do that because they don’t know. I am sure anybody who is criticizing TB Joshua has never met him personally.
FC: So, in summary what are the lessons you have learnt from the man of God
Rev. Antoh: One thing l have learnt is how to make the centrality of Christ the most fundamental in a person’s life. When l see TB Joshua, l see Christ in him Christ in undeniably the centre of his life. So the greatest thing l have learnt from him is to make Christ the center of my life.
Compilation videos of TB Joshua’s prophecies; How True Are They?
This is compilation videos of TB Joshua’s prophecies. Let’s see how accurate they are, as so many news sites and bloggers tries to analyze his prophecies.
WARNING TO THE PRESS AND BLOGGER’S OVER TB JOSHUA
There have been numerous reports flying round the internet and various news media in many African countries for the last few days about what Prophet TB Joshua said on Sunday 5th February about an African president. Different time-frames and false dates, including ‘2 months’ ’60 days’ ‘February 16th’ and ‘April 16th’ have been mentioned. This is to certify and clarify once and for all what Prophet TB Joshua actually said on that day.
Prophet TB Joshua DID NOT prophesy that an African president would die in 60 days or two months time. He DID NOT mention any specific date or time-frame.
DO NOT misquote him. DO NOT spread rumours and attribute them to Prophet TB Joshua. Prophet TB Joshua speaks forth only what he hears from God Almighty and it is not to be misquoted, mistreated or misused for one’s own benefit. “You shall not add to the word which I command you, nor take from it, that you may keep the commandments of the Lord your God which I command you” (Deuteronomy 4:2).
PROPHECIES revealed by God Almighty through Prophet TB Joshua are broadcast LIVE on Emmanuel TV during the Sunday Live Services At The SCOAN.
IF YOU DIDN’T SEE IT FOR YOURSELF ON EMMANUEL TV, IT DIDN’T HAPPEN!
THIS is what Prophet TB Joshua prophesied regarding an African head of state:
“We should pray for one African head of state, president, against sickness that will likely take life. It is a sickness for a long time – being kept in the body for a long time. God showed me the country and the place but I’m not here to say anything like that. I am still praying to God to deliver the president concerned.”
He did not say more than that. He only said that we should pray for his life to be saved. He did not say that the prophecy was unchangeable. He did not give his name; he did not say when the leader would die; he did not say that the leader must die; he did not give the name of the country the leader was from. He only said that we should pray for him.
Please let people around you, your friends and colleagues and all who care to listen know what TB Joshua actually said. What a prophet says is not meant for speculation; it is rather a sober encouragement for us all to continue to give ourselves to prayer. We may know that we need God but we may not know how much we really need Him.
SOURCE: http://wp.me/p22RQ5-8P
Are TB Joshua Miracles Fake or Genuine? People Must See This…
Whatever one does in life people are bound to talk. One of such people they so much talk about is Prophet TB Joshua and his Ministries (SCOAN). Some claim his miracles are fake even some of his ex-disciples whom could NOT do the same thing TB Joshua does, even some Pastors too.
Please watch the videos below and tell us what you think.
USA Fraud/Crime Site Exposed Bisola Johnson – TB Joshua Ex-Disciple
A shocking expose on how one Bisola Johnson extorts large amounts of money from people, pretending to be acting on the behalf of Pastor TB Joshua…
USA CRIME/FRAUD SITE
Source: http://crime.ws/fraud/using-tb-joshuaa-name-for-419-3/
LET’S LIE FOR DOLLARS AND POUNDS
On this site we have shown many of the lies being peddled by TB Joshua’s ex-disciples whom have form a bloc to rebel against TB Joshua and the SCOAN for failing to become either a Prophet or Prophetess. Some of the words used to address TB Joshua are so strong that we at Watching TB Joshua decided to take up the issue, digging deep into some of the issues raised by these so called ex-disciples, and men of God out of sheer jealousy.
Madeleine: A commenter on one of the blogs used to spread malicious and fabricated lies against TB Joshua and his ministry, she had this to say, “All information about TB Joshua that I have read from the Internet indicates that he is not accountable. I have also met a Nigerian church leader visiting England who has said exactly the same.”
Madeleine We don’t get it. Apart from God who called and commissioned him (TB Joshua), who do they want him to be accountable to? Let’s look at Jesus himself and the great men of God in the bible, there is something always unique about them and their calling, so also TB Joshua’s calling is unique. Talking about Nigeria Church Leaders, most of them belong to the PFN and have one way or the other gone to the media to make some despicable statements against TB Joshua and his ministry. The tone and style of some of the writings reveals a deep seated hatred for the Prophet. The writer of such despicable stories against the SCOAN does not even acknowledge the many good things Prophet TB Joshua is doing for Nigeria in particular and for humanity in general. Let’s not be blinded by myopic and false considerations! God alone is the supreme judge and the truth shall prevail! Dollars and Pounds do not allow them to say the truth.
Believe us when we say there are many things we would prefer to be doing than running this site – but if it can help save just a few people from the being deceived like somewhatsober, a commenter who left a comment on our post titled Final Part – War in the Church, Many against TB Joshua saying; I confess to being guilty of believing the unqualified rumors against TB Joshua, to my shame I even name-called him in a most disrespectful way in a ANTI SCOAN SITE, having fallen for the lies. I needed those lies in order to satisfy my own failures at SCOAN. Click here to view the comment direct on our blog
The comment above was left by someone who was deceived by one of the blogs formed by ex-disciples of TB Joshua who were not sincere during their stay at the SCOAN, hence they failed.
Another commenter Kelly wrote on their blog:
You did not tell the world you were going to the SCOAN, so it will be ridiculous when you start telling the world that you left. Kelly Was referring to those who claimed they have wasted their time at SCOAN
After months of slander and defamation, Anti SCOAN Sites finally agrees there is no evidence to support their claim of sexual abuse charges against T.B. Joshua. This is funny considering the fact that they have heaped invectives, called him names and I am wondering why they have not rendered a formal apology to the man of God. In their latest article they said:
‘We’re not saying these allegations are definitely true – we’d have no evidence to support that claim.’
If they claim there is indeed no evidence to support their claims, why are they now saying the allegations must be ‘investigated?’ If they have evidence, it is incumbent upon them to provide them to the police to investigate, because you cannot investigate anything without evidence.
They must for once keep their mouths shut and concentrate on building their lives instead of becoming permanent bloggers. If their aim is to destroy the man of God then they have failed in their venture.
Pentecostal Fellowship of Nigeria Secret Exposed On TB Joshua
After our article “War in the Church, Many against TB Joshua Part 1 and Part 2” was published, thousands of people wrote to us thinking we are SCOAN and wanted to know why we took so long to respond to some of the disturbing allegations made by some Pastors in Nigeria against TB Joshua.
Editor’s note:
We wish to inform all our readers that Watching TB Joshua has nothing to do with the SCOAN. We are individuals operating from Canada, USA, and Holland. To know more about us please check the about us page
In this article we are featuring a Pastor Chidi Daniel a member of the Pentecostal fellowship of Nigeria, begging Prophet TB Joshua for forgiveness. Many may wonder why but the truth is “where there is no guilt there is no apology”
If we cherish evil thoughts, the LORD God will not hear us. And when we stand praying, if we have anything against anyone, forgive them; so that our Father in heaven may also forgive our offenses. Listen to this pastor’s confession in asking for forgiveness to the Man of God. Watch and be set free In Jesus’ Name.
We shall publish other members of the Pentecostal fellowship of Nigeria shortly
War in the Church, Many against TB Joshua Part 2
War part 2
Continuation of War in the Church, Many against TB Joshua Part 1
Ayo Oritsejafor, president of the P.F.N, again on the issue of T.B. Joshua and who tutored him to become a pastor, had this to say:
‘Jesus did not say by their words you will know them; he said by the fruit you shall know them’. Every Nigerian by this time would be able to discern a good fruit from by a bad one’.
In terms of modesty, humility, love for fellow man, good deeds, and including comments on national issue, you will
know who is Christ-like and the one who is made up of falsehood. On the issue of Boko Haram, while TB Joshua was saying we Christians do not defend ourselves because we have a defender – the Holy spirit, Ayo Oritsejafor was calling on Christians to defend themselves because the government seemed incapable of defending them, he even made no reference to the holy spirit, or support his advice with scripture, in other words, while one of them was concerned with the unity of Nigeria, the other was fanning the flames of war. Come to think of it, with Ayo’s advice to Christians on self-defense, with what should Christians defend themselves? Is it with Holy water, Crucifixes or Bibles? He said it so casually; Christians defend thy self!!!. How? To go to church with a pistol in their pockets? or perhaps AK 47 in their babaringa? (African traditional wear) Did he really mean we should use guns and swords?
Our Lord cautioned us against that, “No more of this,” Jesus said to Peter (Lk. 22:51) and then, further, this was what Jesus proceeded to say – as Matthew records it – “‘Put your sword back in its place,’ Jesus said to him, ‘for all who draw the sword will die by the sword’. Ayo, let love reign and seek to always pray for your perceived enemies. CAN need to be very careful in their advice so that is not taken as a call for Christians to start killing non-Christians. a concerned Nigerian commented on this issue by saying that from Ayo’s response on the Boko haram issue, He seems to forget that as Christians , we all have a “dark side of the soul” that is waiting to be used by the devil. CAN should not blind to see that a religious war in Nigeria is just what Bork Haram and the forces of the devil want and no matter the situation CAN should not allow themselves to be used by the forces of evil. The love of God in our hearts will not allow us shed the blood of sinners that we pray and seek to convert. In due time, members of Boko haram will become born again Christians, preaching the gospel all over the world. St Paul is an example.
I thought Ayo being the president of the P.F.N was capable of summoning all the opinion leaders in Nigeria, including both Christians and Muslims and other religions to build bridges towards peace than rather adding more fuel to flames. The issues are well launched. Who do you think bears good fruit worthy of emulation?
On corruption in Nigeria, Ayo, had this to say, “You know, in Ghana, Rawlings shot them. But we can’t do that in Nigeria. So we are praying that those who refuse to change, God should kill them, they should die. Because there are some people, if they don’t die, Nigeria may not move forward. So we are praying that such people should die. God should kill them. God can kill. God makes a life, and God kills too. So there are some people who may have to die, some structures God may have to destroy to move Nigeria forward. ”(See clip on YouTube –
So, here is Ayo talking about corruption in Nigeria but has forgotten to address the filth in the church, the extortion of the gullible by pastors of his like which is akin to corruption on the national scale. As Emerson will say on such issues, ‘a foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of simple minds”. Here is a man who sees everything wrong about his nation and people but fails to examine himself inwardly and his shortcomings. Luke 6:42 sums Ayo’s character, ‘How can you say to your brother, ‘Brother, let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when you yourself fail to see the plank in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye. Again, Ayo, seek love and not vengeance. Why has killing our enemies become a phenomenon in charismaticism? Can’t we ever pray for our enemies to change their way of thinking and to reform? Let love lead instead of hate.
On Chris Okotie and Ladi Thompson, the least said, the better for us all. On Okotie, he can only be described as an opportunist hiding behind the veil of Christendom to propagate his political views. In fact he is a politician. A pop star turned televangelist; there is nothing new about him. An expert on controversies, he peddles in rumour and lies to discredit men of God he seems not to like. He is an attention seeker without anything to offer Nigerians. He masquerades as a man of God to draw attention to himself. As a man on an ego trip, he has dabbled as a student of law, pop star, a law degree holder and a flamboyant televangelist. To him what he conjectures becomes a reality and goes to the extent of placing it in the public domain. This is what he has done in the case of T.B. Joshua. Chris and Tunde Bakare in this regard are the same. Tunde, when he is ‘belly full’, comes out with cock and bull stories of visions he has had from God about other pastors, all with the purpose of denigrating them and projecting himself as the ‘holier than thou’ pastor, seer and politician in Nigeria. St. Bakare! Tunde and Chris have not met T.B. Joshua, not spoken to him nor dialogued with him, yet they destroy him. What is their mission then? Is it to fight for God? Tunde Bakare for all intent and purpose is a walking contradiction, populist and opportunist. He predicted the demise of Obasanjo and never came to pass, he referred to Buhari as the passing phase or one rejected by God yet he partnered him as Buhari’s running mate in the last election. This is simply not a man of God. He is a populist and a dangerous person and must be seen for what he is, looking for the slightest opportunity to jump on. He does not hear or see visions from God. His is trickery of the highest order.
Last, but not the least, is Ladi Thompson, a confusions’ with a political colorization who displays a coffin on his altar and in his office with inscriptions like kill corruption etc. He is the originator of the confused ‘omoluabi’ concept which he explains is a way of fighting and stopping corruption in Nigeria. The fact is, what has he done in fighting corruption in his own small way?
His main pre- occupation is chasing mirages, perceived enemies, people who don’t pose a threat to
him, and sponsoring ex-disciples of Prophet T.B. Joshua in the publication ‘of the deception of the ages’ by Agomoh and Bisola and selling it for over 40 dollars a copy. To Ladi, the gospel of love does not exist. He’s the type who gives a ‘dog a bad name and hangs it’ to satisfy their parochial needs. This is the mentality of an ungodly person. He believes in the African syndrome of ‘I don’t know him but have to destroy him’, period! Where is the love we hear so much in 1 Corinthians 13:13. Has that escaped him?
We need men of impeccable character, consistent and God fearing, people who could be called sons of God, made up of love.
WHO THEY WERE WATCH THEIR PAST!
TB Joshua watch in psychological warfare
TB Joshua watch in psychological warfare. After failing in their bid to run down the man of God they have resorted to cyber psychological warfare by sending a post on the net and subsequently cutting and pasting it on their blog. …….from http://www.nwrain.net/~refocus/ithurts.htmlIt shows they are bereft of ideas and losing the plot. They should do something positive with their lives instead of becoming permanent bloggers.
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IT HURTS to discover you were deceived – that what you thought was the “one true religion,” the “path to total freedom,” or “truth” was in reality a cult.IT HURTS when you learn that people you trusted implicitly – whom you were taught not to question – were “pulling the wool over your eyes” albeit unwittingly.IT HURTS when you learn that those you were taught were your “enemies” were telling the truth after all — but you had been told they were liars, deceivers, repressive, satanic etc and not to listen to them.IT HURTS when you know your faith in God hasn’t changed – only your trust in an organization – yet you are accused of apostasy, being a trouble maker, a “Judas”. It hurts even more when it is your family and friends making these accusations.IT HURTS to realize their love and acceptance was conditional on you remaining a member of good standing. This cuts so deeply you try and suppress it. All you want to do is forget – but how can you forget your family and friends?IT HURTS to see the looks of hatred coming from the faces of those you love – to hear the deafening silence when you try and talk to them. It cuts deeply when you try and give your child a hug and they stand like a statue, pretending you aren’t there. It stabs like a knife when you know your spouse looks upon you as demonized and teaches your children to hate you.IT HURTS to know you must start all over again. You feel you have wasted so much time. You feel betrayed, disillusioned, suspicious of everyone including family, friends and other former members.IT HURTS when you find yourself feeling guilty or ashamed of what you were – even about leaving them. You feel depressed, confused, lonely. You find it difficult to make decisions. You don’t know what to do with yourself because you have so much time on your hands now – yet you still feel guilty for spending time on recreation.IT HURTS when you feel as though you have lost touch with reality. You feel as though you are “floating” and wonder if you really are better off and long for the security you had in the organization and yet you know you cannot go back.IT HURTS when you feel you are all alone – that no one seems to understand what you are feeling. It hurts when you realize your self confidence and self worth are almost non-existent.IT HURTS when you have to front up to friends and family to hear their “I told you so” whether that statement is verbal or not. It makes you feel even more stupid than you already do – your confidence and self worth plummet even further.IT HURTS when you realize you gave up everything for the cult – your education, career, finances, time and energy – and now have to seek employment or restart your education. How do you explain all those missing years?
IT HURTS because you know that even though you were deceived, you are responsible for being taken in. All that wasted time…….. at least that is what it seems to you – wasted time.THE PAIN OF GRIEF
from http://www.nwrain.net/~refocus/ithurts.html what a shame!
Only heard about TB Joshua, don’t know him yet she highly condemns him!
HAPPY NEW YEAR TO OUR FAITHFUL READERS!!!
Editor’s Introduction 1
My desire to expose the so called T.B. Joshua Watch family continues unabated. It has been conveyed to me that the attacks have raised eyebrows in certain quarters, about the mentioning of names with pictures attached to it.
Of course, they are entitled to their opinions. But what they should know is, I have disengaged from the SCOAN London branch just like the TB Joshua watch has done by resigning to fight a cause.
As stated in my previous articles, I am only addressing issues raised by people who sent various emails to members of SCOAN UK about their resignation from SCOAN, UK and matters arising thereof. I am not a spokesperson of SCOAN and I don’t intend to be one. I have only taken on the responsibility of investigating what the TB Joshua watch says and also listening to what others are stating and contrasting them with the emails they sent to all members of UK SCOAN.
All the contents of the TB Joshua watch are recycled from the emails sent by those who resigned from the branch, namely Dave and Angie (co- pastors), Karina and husband, Dr John Harderker, Tracey De Sousa, Leon and wife. Like I rightly said, I have a right to a response and I have chosen word press to do that.
Stella’s Story
We feature Karina and Morne van Niekerk as being part of the ‘Southern African collective’ who has been launching scathing attacks on T.B. Joshua. Some even think by mentioning the word ‘apartheid’ or segregation is too strong a word to describe this ‘collective’.
Yes, karina and the husband, on the 19/3/2010, in their email sent to all members of SCOAN entitled ‘Good Bye’, they launched a blistering attack on prophet T.B. Joshua and all that SCOAN stands for. They acted as conduits and prepared the grounds for what Dave and Angie were to say after their pastoral ship had become untenable and they were about to leave. They showered praises on Angie and Dave who were merely at that time preaching recycled messages from the prophet. They never preached anything new. They said (Karina and Husband): ‘I know a lot of you feel the same way as us and is pondering what to do next. Now is the time to BE the church. The church is more than just a name or a person. It is about being the hands and feet of Christ. It is about being a family and looking out for each other. It is and has never been about a building, liturgy or any other tradition, but us – those who love Him. I want us all to be encouraged to look out for each other. There was a lot of good over the last few years and we all grew spiritually under Dave and Angie’s leadership. We need to take that with us!
Finally we need to thank Dave and Angie for their input in our lives. They are 2 of the most solid people we’ve ever met and we owe a great deal of our understanding of and relationship with God to them. Their dedication and love for us as a church was absolute and inspirational. We never doubted that. They have worked tirelessly to build the church and it is very sad to see it being eroded. We wish them only the best with their future.
Question EVERYTHING – it is Biblical. Trust what you know about Dave & Angie and the Word of God and make informed decisions’.
In a response, one Stella condemned Karina ‘in no small, uncertain and unequivocal terms’. He gave a brief history of the Dutch Reform Church and the brutalities they perpetrated against blacks in South Africa in their policy of apartheid and segregation. He went on to say that ‘there is nothing these guys can teach black Africa’ in terms of pitching Black pastors against T.B. Joshua.
A lot of white South Africans are decent people and there were good guys who fought against the obnoxious regime and we appreciate and respect that but they don’t have the moral right to tell us what is good and bad. We have nothing to learn from Karina and her ilk.
The South African Collective cannot dictate to us. Did their forebears ever question D.D. Malan or Botha? Did they ever help poor black Africans who were dying from squalor and poverty? At least, T.B. Joshua is doing that and he is teaching people to follow his stead.
In Karina and Niekirk’s attack on T.B Joshua and Benny Hinn, she said: ‘The Bible says that when we do charitable works our left hand should not know what our right hand is doing. Yet TBJ’s charitable works are broadcast the world over for all to see. It begs the question what is his motives for doing these things? TBJ made many promises re Haiti. They will be there permanently and will set up a base where there will be nurses and doctors and they are going to adopt x amount of children. I challenge each of you reading this email to set a reminder in your phone and ask the ministry what is happening about it in 1 year from now.
TBJ is promoting the ministries of people who have been discredited within Christian circles such as Benny Hinn. Why do that’?
I challenge them to name South African (white) pastors who are credible men of God. Instead of apologizing for the wrongs of the past they go looking for good people to devour. T.B. has played his part in Haiti and he continues to champion the cause of the down trodden in Africa and other parts of the world, even if he sells his portraits to raise money to help needy we are content with that. Anyway, what did white South Africa do for us?
Let these miscreants in the form of this ‘collective’ know that they were not forced to be part of SCOAN, but came on their own accord and therefore they should leave in peace keeping their thoughts to themselves.
The apartheid mentality is still alive in some people. It is not dead.
T.B. Joshua Watch, Why Complain?
Editor’s note
We have received a comment by Katharsis, obviously a sympathizer of the T.B. Joshua Watch blog in which she admonishes a commenter in the person of Aloysius not to curse his opponents.
This is a bit strange since there is nothing in the comment by Aloysius to suggest curses or cursing. He said God’s healing of an individual is not unconditional and that Angie should be careful about sin in her life that may bring back her disease and this is merely following the discourse on healing we have been debating all along with the T.B Joshua Watch group.
Katharsis, since when did you realize that the debate was on issues and not on personalities? Are you aware of the attacks on the person of T.B. Joshua by the T.B. Joshua Watch? I urge you to go back and read their articles and get back with an apology. I don’t want to go to the merits and demerits of your comment but if anything you are the one cursing.
On love: Where is the love in the articles of the T.B. Joshua Watch group? Again, I urge you to read their write ups and prove me wrong. Just check on their comments side and see the unprintable language being spewed by this unenlightened group. Let me give you the benefit of the doubt by saying you have not been following developments on both side of the divide, then I can safely say you are ignorant.
I implore you to be more circumspect when responding to comments and do a thorough research and investigate the issues before responding so that your folly would not play in to it.
If you want a real academic discourse on the bible then T.B. Joshua watch must desist from unsubstantiated allegations and concentrate on the real issues at stake.
‘Fabricated’ stories of the ‘TB Joshua Watch gang’
TB Joshua Watch……….an outstanding example of paradigm paralysis, tainted by deceit and obnoxious insinuations. It is very sad to see and read the ‘fabricated’ stories and account of the ‘gang’ propagating the evil attacks on SCOAN as a ministry and the person of Prophet T B Joshua. Suffice to say that, it is now quite evident that the people behind this ’evil project’ are the disgruntled elements, who for whatever reason they became followers and workers in this ministry for the ‘many’ years had not accomplished their
mission, or their own agenda.
Who first enticed or forced them into this ministry anyway? Because of their selfish and dubiously motivated reasons, and because they could not ‘achieve’ what they desired, consequently decided to be the strong attackers of this ministry. It is quite sad to witness this, for whatever it is worth, come on…..seems the whole issue is tantamount to the skin colour. Am sure that if TBJ were to be of the other skin colour, oh……it would be a different kettle of fish indeed!
It is quite apparent that the postings and so called ‘comments’ on their ‘venture’ are all concocted, because as they claim they still have ‘loved ones’ in the ministry. These so called former disciples and workers in the vineyard had given and narrated their ‘own side’ of why they left. Really we don’t get it, what point are they making? As we said earlier, we do not and will never incite anyone to come forward to tell stories about how and why they left SCOAN, the postings and comments we publish are well scrutinised before hand , because we will never be part of words trading and counter accusations, or preside over others to judge and watch them. All we are doing is to establish and foster good, spirit-filled relationship with Children of God for the salvation of their souls, just like by-line of Emmanuel TV…….Changing Lives, Changing Nations, Changing the World. As we know as children of Most High….The evidence of Christ is Life Changed. We know indeed that BETTER IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH, THE BEST IS YET TO COME!
TB JOSHUA WATCH UNMASK YOUR IDENTITIES!
We encourage all our friends who know the identities of the faceless individuals behind the T.B. Joshua Watch to expose them. It has become imperative to unmask them and let the world know who they really are. They mustn’t hide their identities and must come out clean as bold and truthful people.
Bold men who want the world to know the truth because they believe they hold the key to the truth shouldn’t hide their identities
The ‘Fugitives’ TB Joshua Watch False Stories
TB Joshua Watch……….an outstanding example of paradigm paralysis, tainted by deceit and obnoxious insinuations. It is very sad to see and read the ‘fabricated’ stories and account of the ‘gang’ propagating the evil attacks on SCOAN as a ministry and the person of Prophet T B Joshua. Suffice to say that, it is now quite evident that the people behind this ’evil project’ are the disgruntled elements, who for whatever reason they became followers and workers in this ministry for the ‘many’ years had not accomplished their mission, or their own agenda.
Who first enticed or forced them into this ministry anyway? Because of their selfish and dubiously motivated reasons, and because they could not ‘achieve’ what they desired, consequently decided to be the strong attackers of this ministry. It is quite sad to witness this, for whatever it is worth, come on…..seems the whole issue is tantamount to the skin colour. Am sure that if TBJ were to be of the other skin colour, oh……it would be a different kettle of fish indeed!
It is quite apparent that the postings and so called ‘comments’ on their ‘venture’ are all concocted, because as they claim they still have ‘loved ones’ in the ministry. These so called former disciples and workers in the vineyard had given and narrated their ‘own side’ of why they left. Really we don’t get it, what point are they making? As we said earlier, we do not and will never incite anyone to come forward to tell stories about how and why they left SCOAN, the postings and comments we publish are well scrutinised before hand , because we will never be part of words trading and counter accusations, or preside over others to judge and watch them. All we are doing is to establish and foster good, spirit-filled relationship with Children of God for the salvation of their souls, just like by-line of Emmanuel TV…….Changing Lives, Changing Nations, Changing the World. As we know as children of Most High….The evidence of Christ is Life Changed. We know indeed that BETTER IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH, THE BEST IS YET TO COME!
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